Employees leave managers, not companies

Today I found out one of my good friends left their position at a well known technology company that many people would “kill” to work for. I asked him why he left, expecting an answer like “I needed more of a challenge”, or “I outgrew the position and there was no where for me to grow”, but instead he said “I couldn’t work with my boss”.

As he said this I thought about all the people leaving their positions because they simply couldn’t work with their manager. The work was stimulating, the team was great but their manager was unbearable to work with. In these situations, what seems to happen is companies lose good employees on a regular basis and all the managers sit around a conference table trying to address employee attrition, developing strategies for employee retention.

Employee retention is a real problem that all managers face. The key to being able to keep the good employees is not so much the salary you offer them or even the actual work, it is more about how you manage them and how they feel working under you as their manager. Do they feel valued within your team? Do you provide them with timely feedback? Do they feel your support as a manager leading their team or company?

Abraham Maslow was an American psychologist who was best known for creating Maslow’s hierarchy of needs which can be seen below.

Source: Diana Vanbrabant

As a manager we are able to affect three levels of needs within this hierarchy – safety, love & belonging and esteem. These 3 levels represents different elements within the workplace. The first level - safety refers to job security, career progression as well as health benefits and perhaps even gym membership. How do your employees feel about their job? Are they constantly afraid of cuts due to the recession? Do they know that as a manager you care about their wellbeing as well as their work?

The next level is love and belonging. People want to feel as if they are making a difference and are part of something bigger. As a manager how you approach giving out tasks, mentoring employees and interacting with them show how much you value their work. It is your duty as a manager to show employees how their work is making a difference and is part of a much larger plan. The worst thing for an employee is for them to think they are just another cog in a machine.

The last level is esteem. This refers to confidence and respect. It is important to manage your staff in terms of how they feel towards the work and to their peers and managers. Respect within the workplace is extremely important and can be the difference between keeping a good employee or losing them. Training and development when necessary is a good way to boost confidence and equip staff with the right skills. Investing in your staff to help them upskill benefits both the company and the employees. Zig Ziglar once said that there was only one thing worse than training (or growing) your staff and having them leave, and that is not training or developing them and having them stay.

A Florida State University (FSU) professor and two of his doctoral students have conducted a study which highlights the impacts of an abusive or poor manager/boss. They surveyed over 700 people who work in a variety of jobs and asked for their opinions of supervisor treatment on the job.

The study revealed these results:

39%: Their supervisor failed to keep promises
37%: Their supervisor failed to give credit when due
31%: Their supervisor gave them the “silent treatment” in the past year.
27%: Their supervisor made negative comments about them to other employees or managers.
24%: Their supervisor invaded their privacy.
23%: Their supervisor blames others to cover up mistakes or minimize embarrassment

Source: Florida State University

These points act as a good checklist to see how you are managing your staff because at the end of the day employees leave managers and bosses, not companies!

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7th Feb 2013 – This article made it to #1 on Hacker News. Here is the thread so you can see the discussion that went on - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5176140

  • http://sydneyboy.com.au John

    “Failed to to give credit when due” is one I’ve been challenged by in the past but age/wisdom has since tempered…

    A good boss inspires respect and, as a subordinate, I will gladly permit the credit to fall upon him/her – if they have my respect. But where respect is withheld I’m more inclined to crave the praise for myself; so ‘credit when due’ is in fact a test of your relationship: not the work: this study reveals that 37% of respondents had no respect for their supervisor…

    Is not “respect” is the ultimate question subs demand of any super? Do your charges look at you for leadership? Do you know where they are, what they’re going through? Are you the person who’ll extract the very best they can ever be!? This is what they’re looking for!

  • Alaister

    Great point John!

    I think it’s important for this to work both ways. As a manager it is important to give credit to your team where it is due. Also as you mentioned if your team respects you they will be more inclined to have the credit to fall on the manager, for managing the team to success.

  • Nigel

    I couldn’t agree with this more. This is very true. It’s amazing how many managers don’t realize this.

  • Alaister

    Yeh I think one of the most important things to remember is to provide staff with balanced feedback on a regular basis. I think this statistic is pretty crazy – “31%: Their supervisor gave them the “silent treatment” in the past year”

  • Marc

    In essence this is a good piece and much of it rings true, some very good points on the right way to manage and things to try and avoid.

    However, one thing I have learnt is that this stuff is way beyond complex, and not every job is right for every employee. Everyone see’s things from their perspective and the majority of the workplace across the board do not want to be working, so being told they can improve or do something better (even when told in the nicest of ways) is not something easy to take.

    Yes it is a managers job to understand what type of team member he/she has on their hands and how best to work with them. Often though, the staff member does not want it to work. Did those 39% who said their supervisor failed to keep promises, also disclose that they didn’t keep their half of the bargain? Probably not..

    The first key to being a successful manager is getting the right team in place, once you have that maintaining the rest is much easier.

  • Alaister

    Great comment Marc. You’re right, people management is much more complex than what I wrote about in this article or even what is written in books and courses. By providing balanced feedback and working with staff regularly you are able to keep the smart and motivated employees which as you mentioned is “getting the right team in place”.

  • http://www.driesbultynck.be Dries

    Excellent article and a lot of stuff is recognizable (as I left my previous job a few years ago).
    I’m convinced that bad management also influences the grow of people. So in the end… you do leave the job because you had a lack of support & grow potential (given by your superior). I know I left because of those two reasons. Management decides your grow within the ‘playground’ you get within the company. Hierarchy is a bitch ;-)

  • http://Www.tacticalsalestraining.co.uk Marius Fermi

    My current boss took a massive risk with me when he brought me on board, he made it clear as well from the beginning, however this “pressure” has made be perform better than expected – year on year January had a 500% increase in leases generated via online sources down to the work I put in.

    He brought me in whilst I was at dominos as a delivery driver, no experience or knowledge in SEO, online marketing or lead generation. He had the attitude of online is your baby, your one and only goal is create leads and you have X budget for the year, learn and do what you think is best.

    This for me worked perfectly as I’m always hungry to learn, stupendous hunger to succeed and a terrible addiction to the stock markets so when he mentioned shares in the company I was super focused.

    Life story over – to me this was the perfect example of how a boss should treat his team; give freedom, set targets (hard and achievable) early and frequently, reward greatly (Las Vegas trips etc) but demand growth. The pressure is always there but the desire to succeed and grow far outweighs it.

  • Alaister

    @Dries I suppose coming from the perspective of the organization or manager they’re the ones missing out in this instance. It is a case of smart people leaving because of being poorly managed.

  • Melanie Chisnall

    I couldn’t agree more with your post. I’ve worked for many managers, and have experienced that the number one reason why most people leave their jobs has nothing to do with traveling distance, or money. It’s mostly to do with their manager. I can’t understand why it’s so difficult for some people to give recognition where it’s due, to give constructive criticism instead of subjecting their employees to forms of humiliation or belittling. I wrote a similar article called, “Step Up Boss – Why Employees Leave” on News24 last year for the opinions section, which was chosen as an Editor’s pick. It gained over 4000 views and many comments, which is evident that there are a lot of unhappy employees out there who feel similar. Thanks for the great post! Sharing across.

  • http://www.AlaisterLow.com Alaister

    Hi Melanie,

    Thanks for the comment and your insight. What is the link to your article? I would love to read it.

  • Mary

    Conversely – a great manager can keep people where they are. My team of folks has a half dozen techies who are all over qualified at this point, but our manager is totally reliable, respectful, organized, flexible when we need to do some work/life balancing, keeps the time sucking meeting buzzards at bay and generally does such a good job of making where we work a great environment to be productive and get things done that we are all staying until we retire if we have anything to say about it. Or until he retires, whichever. I guess I’m saying this applies even more to people who have high skills and are mobile employment-wise. If you want to keep a highly skilled workforce – make your managers they best they can be and you’ll probably get farther than anything you might directly offer the people you want to keep in your organization.

  • http://www.lockedowndesign.com John J. Locke

    I can say that this is completely true, but I would say that it extends even as far as the company itself, not just the manager. There are things worth more than money in this world, respect, challenge, and feeling like you are part of something worthwhile.

  • Karl

    I worked for a top-10 software company a long time ago, and hear this from someone who was there. At an executive staff meeting, EVP goes to the board and writes ‘morale’. The CEO says “Fuck morale. We pay ‘em, don’t we?”.

    Most of my direct managers in that company were fantastic, but the top 2-3 layers were toxic.

  • http://mergy.org Jonathan Mergy

    Great post and aligns with my experience in the corporate world and in non-profits. The ethos of the organization is a major factor in pulling you in, but often the manager you are forced to deal with and unable to fix pushes you out.

  • Andy

    Your point is a good one, but the reference to Maslow’s hierarchy seems a bit of a reach. Please see https://www.quora.com/Answers-Quora-feature/Is-Maslows-hierarchy-of-needs-overused-as-an-answer-to-questions/answer/Don-Blohowiak for further explanation.

  • http://www.ugift.com.ua Andriy

    Absolutely agree with author

  • Adi

    There are, I would dare say, BIG exceptions to this rule. The only reason I’m still with my current “employer” (I’ve been consulting for the same client for 3 years now) is the fact that my boss, and his boss (my direct manager’s position had been vacant for quite a while) are good people to work with. The rest of the entity that is my client is absolutely horrible, but they pay well. Too well. Nevertheless, had I had someone mediocre (or the least bit annoying) as a manager, I would’ve taken off long time ago, most likely. The same story holds true for most of my peers here, either staff or consultants.

  • http://www.lesliefarnsworth.com Leslie Farnsworth

    I’m not sure this is always the case.

    I have many people I know who’ve left companies for completely different reasons–and on perfectly good terms. (Some of whom were my former employees and current friends.) People leave companies to pursue a dream or a passion that their current role or company can’t offer, to move somewhere else, for a financial offer they can’t refuse for family reasons–and so on. You can’t just simplistically always blame the manager. Also, with some of the stats above, perception may have trumped reality.

    That said, it is very true that one of the main reasons people leave workplaces is that they can’t stand coworkers–peers matter, too–and managers. As an entrepreneur and employer, I can attest that the people dynamic is the hardest thing to get right!

  • Thomas Fitzpatrick

    Managers are not neccesary for a lot of work, especially engineering. Valve and Gore are the two best examples of alternative structures that serve their employees needs better.

    Managers have traditional acted as clearing houses of information. When they become responsible for everyones actions they tend to manage that information less towards the goals of the company and more towards saving there ass or taking credit. At Gore, they have the role of secretary. All departments meet seperately in groups of 8 to 12 with one secretrary. Then all the secretaries meet and bring news back from the rest of the company. Information is ditributed without the ego.

    At the Valve, there are not managers. Everyone votes on who is adding value to the company and nobody can command people to do anything. Praise is distributed correctly and people have incentive to work harder because they have really equity and esteem among their colleagues.

  • http://leetrout.com Lee Trout

    You should read “Peak” by Chip Conley if you haven’t. The whole book is about applying concepts from Maslow… http://www.amazon.com/Peak-Great-Companies-Their-Maslow/dp/0787988618

  • http://www.tarahunt.com Tara Hunt

    I can’t even begin to tell you how awesome this post is…and sadly too true.

    As a person who has managed many people over the years (as well as who has been managed), I feel the best quality a manager can possess is the ability to empower your employees with autonomy and growth challenges. Instead of barking commands, you need to guide and shape them to their growth. And when they do something awesome, tell them.

    Too many managers I’ve encountered want to control outcomes and end up alienating the people they should be encouraging.

  • http://www.patrickrauland.com Patrick Rauland

    Thanks for the post. It is spot on with my experiences in the job market.

    Rarely is money an issue I just want to work with someone that trusts me and respects my work. It turns out to be very hard to find.

  • Jack Rahcam

    It’s a nice, well-written article, but it’s pure entertainment. With only one exception, I’ve never had anyone in management even go so far as to consider the points listed above, let alone think of them as anything but a joke. We work for the money, nothing else. The boss and the board want to keep as much of that money as possible. If the workers burn out, they get replaced.

    I’ve been in the workplace 30 years, most of it as a contractor in IS. That means I’m hourly, no work no pay, and can afford to buy my own health insurance. The direct employee next to me makes less than half the money I do with no job security and a 50 to 70 hour work week while being paid for 40.

  • http://www.ronkato.com Ron Kato

    Good reading! A manager is the most direct interface an employee can have to the company. When a good employee leaves because of a bad manager, that is bad in two levels. One, the company just lost a good employee (obviously) and two, the company has a bad manager in a managerial position. I agree employees leave jobs because of managers but from an employee perspective, the manager is the representative of the company and it’s culture. Why did this person become a manager in the first place and why is he/she still there? It could be that the bad manager is a manifestation of a bad company.
    http://www.ronkato.com/culture-is-top-down/

  • http://www.smallfish.us Carl

    It’s been pretty well established by several industry studies that it is, in fact, true that the working relationship with the manager is the top reason why people leave their jobs. There’s some real interesting complexity to this, though.

    1. For most purposes, the manager is the primary face of the entire company to that employee. Even for things that the manager isn’t really responsible for, he still is given the accountability and blame by the employee – because that’s an actual person, rather than a vague collection of people elsewhere on the org chart.

    2. This is a power relationship, so the employee feels at the mercy of the manager’s decisions. And it’s mostly true, even though we also realize that the employee is probably the one delivering more actual value to the customer and the company. But this is the nature of hierarchies.

    3. In our current culture, we like to blame power figures rather than take responsibility ourselves. So employees often fall in the trap of waiting for managers’ decisions rather than taking direct ownership.

    Having been both a manager and employee for many years, and now as a business coach, it’s real intriguing to puzzle through these kinds of situations. It’s not just a simple matter of telling managers to be nicer to their employees. Some very nice companies cratered when they fell behind on their ability to compete – after all, it’s the customer’s money that funds all the great niceness.

    Great article, Alaister. Thanks.

  • http://www.magnetsocialmedia.com/ Karen Moran

    Great post – it’s why I opted to go off on my own and start my own small business. In my 15 years in the ad agency word I’ve been blessed to have some amazing clients…clients that I still work with now that I’m on my own.

    Bosses though – there unfortunately were more bad ones than good ones.

  • http://www.motlei.net Devin

    One issue is the idea that you “manage” people. You lead people, you manage “stuff”.

  • Jeff

    I would have killed at my last job to get a simple “thank you”. What’s worse is when they completely ignore your complex bug fixes on the back-end, but gush with excitement at a dumb excel graph (true story, and this was a technical manager who spent most of his time programming).

    Too many anti-social worker bees get hired into management, in my experience. And when antisocial worker bees get power, they use it in the silliest ways.

  • http://cubicleninjas.com Cubicle Ninjas

    This is a great read. Employee moral is ultimately leads to the highest quality. All very good points about what to avoid in a team setting. Gotta keep things on the up and up!

  • Julie

    24%: Their supervisor invaded their privacy.

    The company required me to sleep in a room with ONE bed and 3 women during a business trip! Sleeping on a cot is unacceptable when working 12 hrs at a trade show. People need their PRIVACY!

  • http://www.mmchr.com Andrew Schwalb

    Great article and concrete points. This bit, “…all the managers sit around a conference table trying to address employee attrition, developing strategies for employee retention” is so true and begs the question about how a company discovers toxic managers that prohibit positive growth within an organization.

  • Elliot DeBear

    Terrific article.
    The Real Cost of Bad Bosses
    Andre de Waal, a industry specialist in High Performance Organization nails it on the head. de Waal says: “lf you’re looking to run a High-Performance Organization (HPO), you need to be able to be able to recognize the signs of bad management. lf non-HPO managers are not checked and dealt with, an organization will never be able to become excellent.” Bad managers are always busy, busy, busy They are involved in many, many projects; in fact, they’re so busy that there isn’t enough time to work on regular tasks! And because these projects are vital for the success of the organization (or so they say), bad managers cannot possibly be expected to work on their departmental targets. They will get to that when their other projects are finished which they never are. Bad managers know how to play the goals game They know that departmental goals should be loose, with lots of slack, which means the targets will be very easy to achieve. Bad managers will never get optimal results from their departments; but that doesn’t matter to them, bad managers would rather have low performance than run the risk of punishment for falling short of ambitious targets. Bad managers only manage from a distance Bad managers love to use performance indicators because these make it possible to practice hands-off management. This in turn makes it easy for bad managers to avoid the day to day department activities altogether, And of course, if anything goes wrong, they can dodge accountability. Bad managers make lengthy, impressive plans When writing up the latest game plan, bad managers know that expansive, wordy, and complex plans always impress top management because it gives the impression that they are on top of their game and have thought of everything’ They also know that you can bury all kinds of assumptions and preconditions in these verbose plans, which function as safeguards when top management starts complaining that goals have not been achieved. Bad managers only communicate in one way Bad managers are all capable of holding an open forum for employees to voice concerns, questions, and suggestions. This sounds like the mark of a good manager, right? However, the bad manager only feigns interest in employee feedback, and won’t actually act on what he or she hears. lnstead, bad managers stick to their own plans, lf people complain, the bad manager will use open forums against the participants, claiming that any incompetency is the fault of everyone.

  • Ed

    I’d agree with most of this, but stopping at your immediate manager is shortchanging the equation. Quite often your manager is emulating his manager, who is emulating his manager, who is emulating his manager, all the way to the top. Don’t put all the blame on your boss. If his boss doesn’t give a shit then the apathy will flow downhill straight into your tiny, windowless office. I would say that employees don’t leave their immediate manager as often as they leave the system that supports their immediate manager. At least that’s what I’ve experienced.

  • http://www.totalwealthplan.com shantha yahanpath

    Good article. Employees leave poor (and toxic) leaders. Technically competent managers are often promoted to leadership positions without a good grounding in leadership. More on this at http://totalwealthplan.com/files/LeadershipAlternatives_for2013_-_Editorial_DFT_10.pdf
    Comments are most welcome!

  • Lizzy

    Very good and interesting article and I couldn’t agree more. Left a company a few years ago for that very reason. I find it very hard to tell this in job interviews though. When asked why I left the company I have to make up a story – instead of telling the real reason. Isn’t that strange. The manager had 4 people leave within less than 2 years – but neither of us dare to tell that we had a really bad manager and who was the main reason as to why we left the company – in a job interview. The manager is not the only one to blame here, her managers knows she has issues with most people around – and they don’t do anything. I am wondering what success a company could have – if really facing the issue of having bad managers. I am convinced that in most cases it is not unknown to upper management.

  • http://www.totalwealthplan.com shantha yahanpath

    We should differentiate between management and leadership. I recently presented in a developing on this – similar issues in developing countries as well. A very brief presentation http://totalwealthplan.com/files/Leadership_Alternatives-Rotary_Colombo_300113.pdf

  • Jack

    This article just hits the spot! More and more companies are following compromise agreements to get rid of people who don’t get on with Managers. I am so sorry to see organisations dying a death because of irritant egoistic managers who get the cream of talent out. It’s a jungle out there and we need to watch our backs at all times!

  • Mohmd

    This is usually a result of wrong selection of a manager of a wrong promotion of a manager. Normally such managers lack leadership skills and they tend to push people out either out of their ill competencies or fear of them replacing them

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  • miriam saidi

    Loved the article. great points. and I totally agree on this.

  • Tu

    I agree with the general idea this article is conveying. However I’d be careful with generalizations like ‘at the end of the day employees leave managers and bosses, not companies”. I can think of a multitude of other reasons why employees often leave a company that have nothing to do with their manager, also speaking from own decisions I had to take.

  • Gerard Rodgers

    This is a super article

  • Harshita Varghese

    It’s a simple truth, universally understood, seldom acknowledge coz it takes a lot of grit to say, I wronged my own team member.

    The big question is why do “accomplished individuals”, at least is as evident by their position in the hierarchy indicates so, fall prey to insecurities of their mind. Bringing up a junior team member, honing their potential to perform better and taking pride in their successes gets eclipsed by the trivial fears of a weak self concept.

    Simple remedy for a basic malady. Along with position comes responsibility and people are part of it. It’s important for a leader to be sensitive to the fact that your people will look up to you, at least for the virtue of the position you hold. Don’t cut a sorry figure but being petty.

    You will be accepted as a ‘Senior’ and a manager only if your people can idolise you, and your behaviour does not disgust them.

  • Harshita Varghese

    It’s a simple truth, universally understood, seldom acknowledge coz it takes a lot of grit to say, I wronged my own team member.

    The big question is why do “accomplished individuals”, at least is as evident by their position in the hierarchy indicates so, fall prey to insecurities of their mind. Bringing up a junior team member, honing their potential to perform better and taking pride in their successes gets eclipsed by the trivial fears of a weak self concept.

    Simple remedy for a basic malady. Along with position comes responsibility and people are part of it. It’s important for a leader to be sensitive to the fact that your people will look up to you, at least for the virtue of the position you hold. Don’t cut a sorry figure by being petty.

    You will be accepted as a ‘Senior’ and a manager only if your people can idolise you, and your behaviour does not disgust them.

  • Patrick

    Clearly the answer from the comments so far is that frequently people leave when their management is poor. So some of the questions which all managers should ask themselves are: Why am I in a management position, for whose benefit? What skills do I bring to this job? Am I prepared to let others shine. or do I try and grab all the limelight? Do I encourage as a first response or knock/undermine?

  • Worker

    This post is so relevant. I would probably be in one of the first organisations I ever worked for if my boss had showed they valued me, my work, intelligence, qualifications, had believed in me and most of all , treated me with respect. In hindsight I have left over 5 different positions because my boss didn’t respect my dignity. Sad to say but if I could abolish two things in this world it would be office politics and bad management. People never reach their full potential with arrogant bosses who often don’t even realise that with their egos and often silly power games, they are playing with workers’ lives.

  • Marco

    I’m not surpriced at all asI personally have witnessed how one manager ruined one whole company and the board did not react altough the whole staff wrote to them and told about the unbearable situation. It takes only one new bad manager to ruin what has bee built up during years what comes to trust, team building and loyalty from both manager and employee side. Many managers consider their job as a place where they can express their bad mood and manors instead of being a role model and looking for the best of the company and their staff. What is more disturbing that the behaviour is accepted by the higher management who in the final end will get all the problems in their lap.

  • Marcus

    Hmmmm – a typical reaction when quitting is to blame the manager. After all, it’s the easy option. It’s much easier than being an adult and taking the responsibility to manage the relationship with your manager. The attitude seems to be – “I don’t like my manager so that’s THEIR fault”. If you are disgruntled with your manager, why not ask YOURSELF why you don’t get on with them and take a look at what YOU might be able to do differently. “I don’t get on with my manager” seems to be used as an umbrella excuse when an employee finds that not everything goes their way. Missed your quota?… Oh the manager set it wrong! Poor performance rating?…Oh my manager doesn’t like me! Missed out on a pay rise?… Well it must be that pesky manager, and nothing to do with me, after all I am a perfect employee. The fact is, it’s not the job of a manager to make life a bed of roses for you!

    I have witnessed plenty of employees having issues with their managers, but the best and most successful employees, (the ones who make a positive difference and we want to keep) are the ones who take ownership and responsibility for their own life / career and manage their manager appropriately. The company I work for has never been worse off for anyone leaving as a result of a difference of opinion with a manager, and experience suggests they will be using the same tired excuse when they quit their next job.

  • Brombeertje

    People who didn’t finish school can end up as teamleads or even managers. Surely people behave in the context of the companyculture, but those taskoriented projectmanagers just fall short as peoplesmanager no matter what environment they’re in.
    Bad management made me leave twice a company. There were more reasons, but a bad manager makes a bad situation an unbearable one.